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unknown: Re: resilience.help me Sep 08, 2008 09:48:21


Dear M.R. Rezaei:

I have dong something about agriculture during my PhD. I thind we should find some surrogates for the system we want to study. Only after we find some variables in the system as their surrogate can we study the system by the methold of model. System dynamic model is good for the study of system resilience. We can use the model to study the behavior of the system by the method of scenario.
I have set up a model about agricultural system (aimed at water scarcity and farm's situation),if you need, please write email to me. Don't be hesitate.
Yours sincerely,

Hongjun Li
Water Resources Sustainable Research Group, Center for Agricultural
Resources Research, Institute of Genetics and Developmental Biology,
CAS
# 286, Huaizhong Rd, Shijiazhuang City, HeBei Province, China. 050021
Phone: +86-311-8587-1620
Email: lhj@sjziam.ac.cn
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unknown: resilience.help me Sep 04, 2008 10:55:22
Dear ilan kelman

My name is M.R. Rezaei, and I am PhD candidate urban planning in Tarbiat Modares University, Tehran, Iran. My thesis is concerned with urban or community resilience.
Therefore, I would be grateful you to provide me some notes on this subject and help me to do this work.
 
 
Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions. 
Thank you very much for your attention to all these matters. 
Yours sincerely,
M.R. Rezaei
 
M.R. Rezaei
Tarbiat Modarres University
Faculty of human science
Geography Department
Tehran, Iran.
Tel:+989126177952
Email: Rezaiem@modares.ac.ird, 9/3/08, Ilan Kelman <ilan_kelman@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Ilan Kelman <ilan_kelman@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Adaptation and City infrastructure?
To: "Resilience Dialog" <m_re84@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 10:20 PM

(This is a re-post because it was not posted the first time.)

> From: ilan_kelman@hotmail.com
> To: prd@resalliance.org
> Subject: RE: Adaptation and City infrastructure?
> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:33:11 +0000
>
>
> Dear Michael (and List),
>
> Some examples:
>
> -Asia-Pacific http://www.global-cities.info/climatechange and
http://www.ids.ac.uk/index.cfm?objectId=D58A936D-C88F-D47B-B8BE41E11ADAAA02
>
> -Australia http://www.iclei.org/index.php?id=6549
>
> -Canada (Toronto) http://www.toronto.ca/teo/adaptation.htm
>
> -UK http://www.tcpa.org.uk/downloads/20070523_CCA_lowres.pdf
>
> -USA http://www.iclei.org/index.php?id=7066
>
> -General
http://www.ids.ac.uk/UserFiles/File/publications/in_focus/InFocus_02.6Cities_FINAL3web.pdf
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ilan
>
>
> ________________________________
> To: ilan_kelman@hotmail.com
> Subject: Adaptation and City infrastructure?
> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:08:23 -0400
> From: michaelcote@gmail.com
>
> Hello,
>
> Looking for tech/white papers and/or case studies regarding Climate Change
Adaptation efforts and techniques in urban planning. For example, New York
City's Dept. of Environmental Protection has implemented adaptation
techniques for water infrastructure. Example at bottom of this page -
http://ccsr.columbia.edu/cig/taskforce/index.html
>
> Any help will be most appreciated!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michael Cote
> UMass-Amherst MRP 2010
> Vermont Law MSEL 2010
> michaelcote@gmail.com
>
> (206) 550-3034
> _________________________________________________________________
>

_________________________________________________________________




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unknown: Re: Adaptation and City infrastructure? Sep 03, 2008 14:14:30
(This is a re-post because it was not posted the first time.)

> From: ilan_kelman@hotmail.com
> To: prd@resalliance.org
> Subject: RE: Adaptation and City infrastructure?
> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:33:11 +0000
>
>
> Dear Michael (and List),
>
> Some examples:
>
> -Asia-Pacific http://www.global-cities.info/climatechange and http://www.ids.ac.uk/index.cfm?objectId=D58A936D-C88F-D47B-B8BE41E11ADAAA02
>
> -Australia http://www.iclei.org/index.php?id=6549
>
> -Canada (Toronto) http://www.toronto.ca/teo/adaptation.htm
>
> -UK http://www.tcpa.org.uk/downloads/20070523_CCA_lowres.pdf
>
> -USA http://www.iclei.org/index.php?id=7066
>
> -General http://www.ids.ac.uk/UserFiles/File/publications/in_focus/InFocus_02.6Cities_FINAL3web.pdf
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ilan
>
>
> ________________________________
> To: ilan_kelman@hotmail.com
> Subject: Adaptation and City infrastructure?
> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:08:23 -0400
> From: michaelcote@gmail.com
>
> Hello,
>
> Looking for tech/white papers and/or case studies regarding Climate Change Adaptation efforts and techniques in urban planning. For example, New York City's Dept. of Environmental Protection has implemented adaptation techniques for water infrastructure. Example at bottom of this page - http://ccsr.columbia.edu/cig/taskforce/index.html
>
> Any help will be most appreciated!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michael Cote
> UMass-Amherst MRP 2010
> Vermont Law MSEL 2010
> michaelcote@gmail.com
>
> (206) 550-3034
> _________________________________________________________________
>

_________________________________________________________________
unknown: RE: Adaptation and City infrastructure? Sep 03, 2008 12:01:53
I heard that Boris Johnson launched the London Adaptation Plan a week or so
ago..it includes all sorts of plans (if I remember correctly) for rooftop
gardens, a heatwave emergency plan etc (Not sure that they haven't copied
New York,

Best wishes

Valerie Nelson
Natural Resources Institute



_____

From: Michael Cote [mailto:michaelcote@gmail.com]
Sent: 30 August 2008 19:08
To: Resilience Dialog
Subject: Adaptation and City infrastructure?



Hello,

Looking for tech/white papers and/or case studies regarding Climate Change
Adaptation efforts and techniques in urban planning. For example, New York
City's Dept. of Environmental Protection has implemented adaptation
techniques for water infrastructure. Example at bottom of this page -
http://ccsr.columbia.edu/cig/taskforce/index.html

Any help will be most appreciated!

Best regards,

Michael Cote
UMass-Amherst MRP 2010
Vermont Law MSEL 2010
michaelcote@gmail.com
(206) 550-3034


--
unknown: Adaptation and City infrastructure? Sep 02, 2008 08:09:21
Hello,

Looking for tech/white papers and/or case studies regarding Climate Change
Adaptation efforts and techniques in urban planning. For example, New York
City's Dept. of Environmental Protection has implemented adaptation
techniques for water infrastructure. Example at bottom of this page -
http://ccsr.columbia.edu/cig/taskforce/index.html

Any help will be most appreciated!

Best regards,

Michael Cote
UMass-Amherst MRP 2010
Vermont Law MSEL 2010
michaelcote@gmail.com
(206) 550-3034

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unknown: Fw: Call for Papers - 8th. ESEE conference in Ljubljana Aug 20, 2008 11:23:22


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Dear Colleague,

The European
Society for Ecological Economics (ESEE), in co-operation with the University of
Ljubljana, Biotechnical Faculty, are pleased
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unknown: RE: thresholds and public policy Jul 24, 2008 09:00:51
Dear Chanda (and list),

Regarding your query below, I wonder if you might be able to clarify more about what you are seeking? As far as I understand your question, you are looking for instances where observation or monitoring is used for resource management. In my experience, people involving in managing resources who deserve their jobs make extensive use of various forms of observation or monitoring. That can be as simple as looking out the window to see downstream from the dam that the water level seems to be a bit low for fish, so the flow rate should be increased until it rains, obviously within the rules delineated for such operations. That can also be as complex as creating a multi-layered GIS combining various forms of remote sensed environmental data (real-time or otherwise) in order to generate input values for a model that will suggest rules for harvesting times and quotas for non-timber forest products. Naturally, hundreds more examples could be generated, yielding thousands or more publications on topics ranging from indigenous observations of Arctic wind direction that delineate rules for when to start hunting, through to trawling satellite data archives to generate different vegetation indices for rules on how much a storm or a tsunami might have affected the coastal shrimp forming a mainstay of coastal livelihoods.

Your question does focus on thresholds. Similarly, there are plenty of academic and non-academic publications on topics ranging from coral bleaching thresholds affecting local resource-based livelihoods to monitoring and observation networks for new volcanic eruptions in order to assist forest and water management affected by tephra, pyroclastic density currents, and/or lahars.

I agree that resource management decisions, with respect to thresholds or not, are in many cases made with inadequate information, even when that information is readily available (or, in fact, is given to the resource manager). As well, particularly in the contemporary era, there is such an immense amount of observation and monitoring data available freely online that some people articulate that the current challenge in managing resources might be too much information available rather than not enough! But that is another discussion.

If you were able to clarify more about what you were seeking, and why standard resource management practices (as per the examples above) are not useful, then perhaps more focused material could be provided.

With best regards,

Ilan


> To: ilan_kelman@hotmail.com
> Subject: thresholds and public policy
> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:07:49 -0800
> From: ftclm@uaf.edu
>
> Hi everyone -- I'm writing a paper on how observation or monitoring
> systems may connect (or not) to rules that
> manage resources. I'm wondering if anyone knows of another good paper
> that describes this phenomenon, particularly
> as it relates to identifying and monitoring thresholds. I've found one:
>
> Boyle, M., J. Kay, and B. Pond, Monitoring in Support of Policy: an
> adaptive ecosystem approach, in Encyclopedia
> of Global Environmental Change, T. Munn, Editor. 2001, John Wiley and
> Sons, Inc.: New York. p. 116-137
>
> that was cited in one of Carl Folke's papers.
>
> Any others?
>
> Thanks for ideas!
>
> Chanda
>
> --
> Chanda Meek, PhD Candidate
> EPSCOR fellow
> Dept. of Resources Management
> University of Alaska Fairbanks
> ftclm@uaf.edu
_________________________________________________________________
unknown: Fw: Final NeWater Conference 2008 - Registration is OPEN! Jul 22, 2008 09:25:24




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Chanda Meek: thresholds and public policy Jul 16, 2008 17:27:52
Hi everyone -- I'm writing a paper on how observation or monitoring
systems may connect (or not) to rules that
manage resources. I'm wondering if anyone knows of another good paper
that describes this phenomenon, particularly
as it relates to identifying and monitoring thresholds. I've found one:

Boyle, M., J. Kay, and B. Pond, Monitoring in Support of Policy: an
adaptive ecosystem approach, in Encyclopedia
of Global Environmental Change, T. Munn, Editor. 2001, John Wiley and
Sons, Inc.: New York. p. 116-137

that was cited in one of Carl Folke's papers.

Any others?

Thanks for ideas!

Chanda

--
Chanda Meek, PhD Candidate
EPSCOR fellow
Dept. of Resources Management
University of Alaska Fairbanks
ftclm@uaf.edu
Philip Loring: [Fwd: Session Announcements and Call for Papers - Session 1: "NorthernFood Systems and Food Security," Session 2: "Engaging Local Expertise: FromCollaborative Observations to Collaborative Understandings of Change"] Jun 27, 2008 12:25:01
For any of you interested, I've been asked by the organizers of the AAAS
Arctic to run two sessions at this coming September's meeting. I'm
sharing the session abstracts and call for papers with you here.

Best,
Philip Loring
University of Alaska Fairbanks

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Subject: Session Announcements and Call for Papers - Session 1:
"Northern Food Systems and Food Security," Session 2: "Engaging Local
Expertise: From Collaborative Observations to Collaborative
Understandings of Change"
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 06:00:00 -0800
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Session Announcements and Call for Papers
Session 1: "Northern Food Systems and Food Security"
Session 2: "Engaging Local Expertise: From Collaborative Observations to
Collaborative Understandings of Change"
AAAS Arctic Science Conference 2008
15-17 September 2008
Fairbanks, Alaska

Abstract Submission Deadline: Friday, 1 August 2008

For further information, please go to:
http://www.arcticaaas.org/meetings/2008/#abstracts

Or contact:
Philip Loring
Email: ftpal@uaf.edu

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The organizers of the 2008 American Association for the Advancement of
Science (AAAS) Arctic Science Conference invite papers for two sessions:
"Northern Food Systems and Food Security" and "Engaging Local Expertise:
From Collaborative Observations to Collaborative Understandings of
Change." The Arctic Division AAAS annual meeting will be held 15-17
September 2008, in Fairbanks, Alaska. The theme of this year's
conference, "Growing Sustainability Science in the North: The Resilience
of the People in the Arctic," allows the event to be organized into
three linked themes: Day 1: "Observing Change," Day 2: "Understanding
Change," and Day 3: "Responding to Change."

Session 1: "Northern Food Systems and Food Security"
Day 1: 15 September 2008
Food systems of the North are strongly connected to climate, weather,
ecosystems, cultures, and economic systems, with complex and
multifaceted responses to change in each dimension. In a global context
of rising food and fuel prices, the costs of living in the North are on
the rise - a trend contributing to intensified rural-to-urban migration,
which further undermines community stability and health. The aim of this
session is to bring together a multitude of perspectives on these
issues. This should be understood to include "subsistence" food system
practices, as well as commercial food production and procurement
activities, for rural and urban systems alike. Papers on all aspects of
northern food systems are invited, including those that discuss the
impacts of larger-scale processes such as globalization, market
neo-liberalization, and the current food/fuel price increases on food
security.

Session 2: "Engaging Local Expertise"
Day 2: 16 September 2008
The importance of engaging local expertise in the research process is
now largely undisputed. Still, many researchers seek merely data,
capable of being imported into existing research methods and
epistemologies. Local experts, however, often possess a level of
familiarity and experience with ecosystems that is embedded within their
unique, localized way of knowing. If researchers indeed value the
contributions of local expertise, the real path towards harnessing it is
to engage the entire system of knowledge, not only the most quickly
identifiable pieces. The only way forward, then, is to engage local
experts in the processes of analysis, not solely observation, to
collaboratively build understandings of change, with multiple
epistemologies at the table. Papers that challenge traditional
treatments of so-called traditional knowledge, with the intent of
expanding the role of stakeholders in community-based participatory
research, from mere observers, to capable analytical thinkers are
invited for this session.

Abstracts must be submitted, no later than Friday, 1 August 2008, via
the online submission form:
http://www.arcticaaas.org/meetings/2008/abstract.html.

Conference registration will be available online beginning Tuesday, 1
July 2008. The deadline for early registration is Wednesday, 1 September
2008.

For further information on these sessions, please contact the session
organizer:
Philip Loring
Email: ftpal@uaf.edu.

For more information about the conference, please go to:
http://www.arcticaaas.org/meetings/2008

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Martin Robards: RE: resilience costs? Jun 12, 2008 12:26:01
Ilan:
This is one of my favorites on the links between resilience and economics,
more from a modeling approach than the actual costs, but you might find it
useful with respect to the costs of mitigation versus adaptation.

Perrings, C. 1998. Resilience in the Dynamics of Economy-Environment
Systems. Environmental and Resource Economics 11 (3-4):503-520.

Martin


> Hi Ilan,
>
> You may also want to check the work on Inclusive Wealth by Kenneth Arrow
> et
> al. Attached is one paper. Brian Walker and others are doing some work on
> incorporating resilience into IW estimates, but I think that has yet to be
> published.
>
> Hope that helps!
> Oonsie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ilan Kelman [mailto:ilan_kelman@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, 09 June, 2008 08:53
> To: Resilience Dialog
> Subject: RE: resilience costs?
>
>
> Some examples of the savings gained by investing in resilience are at
> http://www.ilankelman.org/miscellany/MitigationSaves.rtf
>
> I have come across many other examples of such calculations, and the
> length
> of this document could double as a result--once I am able to update it.
>
> Ilan
>
>> To: ilan_kelman@hotmail.com
>> Subject: resilience costs?
>> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:54:40 -0400
>> From: michaelcote@gmail.com
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Are there recommended papers covering the economics of resilience? I'm
>> interested in making the case that resilience is financially
>> reasonable, but, frankly, it's a thin case.
>>
>> Cheers and thanks!
>>
>> Michael Cote
>>
>> Vermont Law School
>> Masters in Environmental Law candidate 2010
>> University of Massachusetts-Amherst
>> Masters in Regional Planning candidate 2010
>>
>> (206) 550-3034
>> michaelcote@gmail.com
>> mcote@vermontlaw.edu
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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USA
Oonsie Biggs: RE: resilience costs? Jun 12, 2008 10:38:01
Hi Ilan,

You may also want to check the work on Inclusive Wealth by Kenneth Arrow et
al. Attached is one paper. Brian Walker and others are doing some work on
incorporating resilience into IW estimates, but I think that has yet to be
published.

Hope that helps!
Oonsie

-----Original Message-----
From: Ilan Kelman [mailto:ilan_kelman@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 09 June, 2008 08:53
To: Resilience Dialog
Subject: RE: resilience costs?


Some examples of the savings gained by investing in resilience are at
http://www.ilankelman.org/miscellany/MitigationSaves.rtf

I have come across many other examples of such calculations, and the length
of this document could double as a result--once I am able to update it.

Ilan

> To: ilan_kelman@hotmail.com
> Subject: resilience costs?
> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:54:40 -0400
> From: michaelcote@gmail.com
>
> Hi all,
>
> Are there recommended papers covering the economics of resilience? I'm
> interested in making the case that resilience is financially
> reasonable, but, frankly, it's a thin case.
>
> Cheers and thanks!
>
> Michael Cote
>
> Vermont Law School
> Masters in Environmental Law candidate 2010
> University of Massachusetts-Amherst
> Masters in Regional Planning candidate 2010
>
> (206) 550-3034
> michaelcote@gmail.com
> mcote@vermontlaw.edu

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unknown: RE: resilience costs? Jun 09, 2008 10:49:39
Some examples of the savings gained by investing in resilience are at http://www.ilankelman.org/miscellany/MitigationSaves.rtf

I have come across many other examples of such calculations, and the length of this document could double as a result--once I am able to update it.

Ilan

> To: ilan_kelman@hotmail.com
> Subject: resilience costs?
> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:54:40 -0400
> From: michaelcote@gmail.com
>
> Hi all,
>
> Are there recommended papers covering the economics of resilience? I'm
> interested in making the case that resilience is financially
> reasonable, but, frankly, it's a thin case.
>
> Cheers and thanks!
>
> Michael Cote
>
> Vermont Law School
> Masters in Environmental Law candidate 2010
> University of Massachusetts-Amherst
> Masters in Regional Planning candidate 2010
>
> (206) 550-3034
> michaelcote@gmail.com
> mcote@vermontlaw.edu

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unknown: Re: resilience costs? Jun 09, 2008 09:39:04
Michael:

I will definitely leave recommendations to others on the list, as I'm just
beginning to review the economics / resilience papers.

I'd just add that almost all things "sustainable" are not "financially
reasonable", not because they aren't profitable, but because the dominant
economic paradigm is broken, as to be invalid.

Josh




On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Michael Cote <michaelcote@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Are there recommended papers covering the economics of resilience? I'm
> interested in making the case that resilience is financially
> reasonable, but, frankly, it's a thin case.
>
> Cheers and thanks!
>
> Michael Cote
>
> Vermont Law School
> Masters in Environmental Law candidate 2010
> University of Massachusetts-Amherst
> Masters in Regional Planning candidate 2010
>
> (206) 550-3034
> michaelcote@gmail.com
> mcote@vermontlaw.edu
>



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unknown: resilience costs? Jun 09, 2008 09:29:01
Hi all,

Are there recommended papers covering the economics of resilience? I'm
interested in making the case that resilience is financially
reasonable, but, frankly, it's a thin case.

Cheers and thanks!

Michael Cote

Vermont Law School
Masters in Environmental Law candidate 2010
University of Massachusetts-Amherst
Masters in Regional Planning candidate 2010

(206) 550-3034
michaelcote@gmail.com
mcote@vermontlaw.edu
unknown: RE: Looking for references on adaptive cycles theory Jun 06, 2008 07:54:15
Two people on this list recommended the paper:

Folke, C. 2006. "Resilience: The emergence of a perspective for social-ecological systems analyses". Global Environmental Change, vol. 16, pp. 253-267.

I read this paper and append some discussion below on it. I would be interested in others' thoughts regarding this paper. Needless to say, if I have misinterpreted any aspects or made any mistakes, please accept my deepest apologies and I will trust you to point out these errors. Thank you very much,

Ilan

----------

The paper's abstract states "This article presents the origin of the resilience perspective and provides an overview of its development to date". That is further elaborated in the paper as "The purpose with this paper is to provide an overview of the emergence of the resilience perspective and the context within which it has developed. It will not be a paper for those that look for simple, clear-cut explanations about resilience in a technical sense. The paper is more of a narrative that starts with presenting the ecological or ecosystem resilience perspective, and its early influence on other disciplines and how it contrasts with more narrow interpretations of resilience in ecology." (page 254). Many of the comments below refer back to this statement of the paper's purpose.

Despite the paper stating that its purpose "is to provide an overview of the emergence of the resilience perspective and the context within which it has developed" (page 254), the author does not consider the work of the authors Ben Wisner, Eric Waddell, William Torry, Douglas Paton, Anthony (Tony) Oliver-Smith, Phil O'Keefe, Betty Morrow, Andrew Maskrey, James Lewis, Allan Lavell, David Johnston, Michael Glantz, Kenneth Hewitt, Susanna Hoffman, Maureen Fordham, Anne Eyre, Elaine Enarson, Zenaida Delica Willison, Ian Davis, Fred Cuny, Jean Copans, Terry Cannon, and Virginia García Acosta. That work, and the work of many others, extends from the present back to at least the 1970's, using field-based practical evidence to match with theoretical ideas to better understand and evidence individuals and communities showing characteristics of resilience in the face of different environmental, often linked to social, changes and challenges, including within the context of "sustainable development" (e.g. page 260) as that literature evolved. Since the author specifically references anthropology and culture (page 255), the authors listed in this paragraph must be directly relevant to the paper's discussion and perhaps the paper's author does not fully know the resilience literature.

It could be argued, perfectly fairly, that no paper can cover all literature. Yet with such a high level of omissions, the paper has not matched its own mandate. In particular, the author finds room to reference more than 30 of his own publications (6 of them for which he was the first author), suggesting that plenty of space would have been available to diversify the sources used in the paper and to demonstrate deeper and broader knowledge of the literature.

Interestingly, after presenting his own view of the history of the field, the author complains that "all this work, especially in the early days, was largely ignored or opposed by the main stream body of ecology" (page 256). He makes the same mistake by ignoring (or, it could be possible, opposing) the work of the authors listed above.

Similar comments regarding the author's lack of knowledge of the literature could be made about the final paragraph on page 256 and the following text regarding the superficial discussion on "engineering resilience". Plus, as epitomised in Table 1, but as is evident throughout the paper, the work on psychological resilience is overlooked in the paper, despite its evident application to addressing "social-ecological resilience" (pages 259 and 263), with two examples (there are many more) being:
Paton, D. and D.M. Johnston. 2001. Disasters and Communities: Vulnerability, resilience and Preparedness. Disaster Prevention and Management, vol. 10, no. 4, pp. 270-277.
Ronan, K.R. and D.M. Johnston. 2005. Promoting community resilience in disasters: the role for schools, youth, and families. Springer, New York, New York, USA.

The paper states "In 1991, the newly established Beijer International Institute of Ecological Economics initiated a research program on the ecology and economics of biodiversity loss (Perrings et al., 1992), in particular, the role and value of biodiversity in supplying ecosystem services (Barbier et al., 1994), without which civilization could not persist (Ehrlich and Ehrlich, 1992)." (page 258). Why is this statement made, but references to people who were studying such topics earlier are not given, with two examples (there are many more) being:
McNeely, J.A. 1988. Economics and Biological Diversity: Developing and Using Economic Incentives to Conserve Biological Resources. IUCN, Gland, Switzerland.
Norgaard, R.B. 1987. Economics as mechanics and the demise of biological diversity. Ecological Modelling, vol. 38, nos. 1-2, pp. 107-121.
As noted above, it would be impossible for all work to be covered in a single paper, but also as noted above, when the author clearly focuses on his own work at the exclusion of other important material, then there is definitely room to diversify sources and to ensure that the paper matches its stated mandate. The same concern applies to the paper's statement that "The resilience perspective was revived in the early 1990s through research programs of the Beijer Institute" (page 260) as if none of the authors referenced above had worked on resilience at all before the Beijer Institute started their own work "in the early 1990s".

Page 260 states "despite the huge literature on the social dimension of resource and environmental management, most studies have focused on investigating processes within the social domain only, treating the ecosystem largely as a 'black box' and assuming that if the social system performs adaptively or is well organized institutionally it will also manage the environmental resource base in a sustainable fashion." No references or quotations are given to support that statement. That statement does not account for the decades-long list of research publications studying indigenous societies accepting as a main premise the links and interchanges between society and the environment. Some (not all) of the authors in the list above would be in this category, with two specific examples being Eric Waddell and William Torry. The rich and lengthy literature on indigenous islanders is particularly poignant with regards to societal-environmental connections and integrations (see also the two journals mentioned in the next paragraph).

Similarly, pages 261-262 state "Berkes and Folke (1998) used the term social-ecological system to emphasize the integrated concept of humans-in-nature and to stress that the delineation between social and ecological systems is artificial and arbitrary". These ideas have been prevalent in many indigenous cultures for millennia (two examples of journals with many references supporting this statement are "Human Ecology" which started in 1972 and "Pacific Affairs" which started in 1927). It is unclear why the author attributes to himself what many others knew and implemented long before 1998--and, in fact, many others such as the authors listed above have published on exactly this topic long before 1998.

Social capital receives three mentions, on pages 260-261, but not critiques of social capital, with two examples (there are many more) being:
Baron, S., J. Field, and T. Schuller. (eds.) 2000. Social Capital: Critical Perspectives. Oxford University Press, Oxford, U.K.
Navarro, V. 2002. "A Critique of Social Capital". International Journal of Health Services, vol. 32, no. 3, pp. 423-432.
It is strange that a paper purporting to give an overview of history does not mention Robert Putnam with regards to social capital.

The paper states "A vulnerable social-ecological system has lost resilience. Losing resilience implies loss of adaptability" (page 262). These statements appear to be given as truisms, even though there are many views and much discussion by the authors listed above, that provide different perspectives on such claims. As such, the paper has not fulfilled its mandate. The same concern arises with the sentence on this page that begins "In resilience work adaptability is referred to as the capacity of people in a social-ecological system to build resilience through collective action". Only in some resilience work, not resilience work in general. Later on this page, the sentence starting "The resilience perspective emerged from..." would be fair if written as "One resilience perspective emerged from..."

The paper states "The implication for policy is profound and requires a shift in mental models toward human-in-the-environment perspectives" (page 263). Does the author believe that "human-in-the-environment perspectives" have never been involved in research, policies, practices, and advocacy relating to reducing chemical pollution including persistent organic pollutants, stopping ozone depletion, reducing greenhouse gas emissions, reducing disaster risk, and tackling harmful infrastructure development, and protected area management?
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Stephan Barthel: Re: adaptive thinking vs. systems thinking Jun 05, 2008 02:38:05
Dear collegues,

Is there possibilities to view the question from another perspective? Is not both systems thinking, as well as symbolic intercationism, tools for interpreation for us as scientists. Laymen and practitioners most surely have also mental models for interpratation, possibly dominatly built on individual and negotiated experinces of the past. I think Sander van der Leeuw put it out in a straight forward way in the book 'The way the wind blows'. It was something like this:

The relation between the 'social' and the ecosystem is asymmetric in any SES, in that both societie´s perception of the environment and its inpact on it are governed by the filter of human perception (van der Leeuw 2000).

cheers
Stephan Barthel
+46763396688
Department of systems ecology,
Stockholm Resilience Center
Stockholm University
stephan@ecology.su.se

----- Original Message -----
From: aaron gilbee
To: Resilience Dialog
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: adaptive thinking vs. systems thinking


Greeting Ika,

I was waiting to see the responses that might come in regards to the question I posed. I did need to elaborate more.

Whenever I say systems, (I will admit that I am a bit of a novice when it comes to these topics) I mean it in the most general sense based upon the dynamics between systems. I am a person who sees systems thinking as the exchanges that are predictable and known.

Symbolic interactionism is how humans interpret items in their environment to derive meaning. It is a view that humans create their own understanding by creating a symbol to interact with an object or create meaning from the unknown. In the context of small farms, it is the appearance of yellow spots on his crop which might be interpreted by a farmer to mean that his crops have been infested by a bug. The point of the change from symbolic interactionism to systems thinking occurs when the farmer starts thinking about the infestation spreading to the rest of his crops and what processes he might take to prevent its growth. I am just thinking that there is a moment of interpretation before systems thinking occurs.

Tell me if this is right, adaptive management on the farmer's part would look to take the step of controlling these processes related to controlling the infestation in relation to other known systems such as a water cycle.

So I guess one relationship between the 3 might be symbolic interaction->systems thinking->adaptive management.

It is a little hard to wrap my mind around it.

Cheers from Buffalo, New York,

Aaron

On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Ika Darnhofer <darnhofi@lincoln.ac.nz> wrote:

Hi Aaron,

I am not sure I can be of much help, and I know nothing about symbolic
interactionism. But I also work on decision making (in the
agricultural/farming sector) and am currently trying to work out how adaptive
management could help us understand farm-level decisions.

I am not sure you mean adaptive thinking or adaptive management. There is
quite some literature out there on adaptive management, mostly of large-
scale ecosystems (i.e. focused on the problem of managing common
goods). I so far have found little on adaptive management at the individual
level (i.e. at the farm / private sector level).

Systems thinking... hm that would require you clarify what you mean by
"systems": there are many different approaches and understanding of
"systems". Historically there was the "general systems theory", then the
"systems dynamics", now it seems it is mostly about "complex adaptive
systems" (CAS) or complexity science. In the social science there is
Luhmann with his understanding of systems.

I personally think that there is much in common on adaptive management
and systems thinking, as I think a farmer needs to grasp the basics of
(complex) systems (dynamics / patterns / changes) to be able to apply
adaptive management principles as his/her farm travels along the adaptive
cycle. I am currently working on a manuscript on the issue, and haven't
found many other papers that address it, especially as applied on farming
(and I am not sure if that is helpful for you, as I do not know the context in
which you want to apply it!?).

Let's see what the other participants in the mailing list will contribute!
Greetings from New Zealand,
Ika

On 22 May 2008 at 15:02, aaron gilbee wrote:

>
> Hi gang, I wanted to throw this question out there and see if anyone
> might have some ideas. I am a graduate student in a program focused on
> decision making. I was wondering how does adaptive thinking differ
> from systems thinking and symbolic interactionist thinking. My view is
> one where systems thinking focuses on thought that are related to how
> the environment interacts with humans, mean while symbolic
> interactionism addresses how humans interact with the environment This
> admittedly is too simplistic, but I thought it might be valuable to
> through out there to people more engaged with the topics than I am
> currently. Thanks, Aaron
>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ika Darnhofer

Currently on sabbatical at:
Agribusiness & Economics Research Unit
Lincoln University
P.O.Box 84
Lincoln 7647, New Zealand

Home institution:
Dept. of Economic and Social Sciences
BOKU - Univ. of Nat. Resources and Applied Life Sciences, Vienna
Feistmantelstr. 4
1180 Vienna, Austria
http://www.wiso.boku.ac.at/darnhofer.html
ika.darnhofer@boku.ac.at




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unknown: Re: adaptive thinking vs. systems thinking Jun 04, 2008 14:37:22
Greeting Ika,

I was waiting to see the responses that might come in regards to the
question I posed. I did need to elaborate more.

Whenever I say systems, (I will admit that I am a bit of a novice when it
comes to these topics) I mean it in the most general sense based upon the
dynamics between systems. I am a person who sees systems thinking as the
exchanges that are predictable and known.

Symbolic interactionism is how humans interpret items in their environment
to derive meaning. It is a view that humans create their own understanding
by creating a symbol to interact with an object or create meaning from the
unknown. In the context of small farms, it is the appearance of yellow spots
on his crop which might be interpreted by a farmer to mean that his crops
have been infested by a bug. The point of the change from symbolic
interactionism to systems thinking occurs when the farmer starts thinking
about the infestation spreading to the rest of his crops and what processes
he might take to prevent its growth. I am just thinking that there is a
moment of interpretation before systems thinking occurs.

Tell me if this is right, adaptive management on the farmer's part would
look to take the step of controlling these processes related to controlling
the infestation in relation to other known systems such as a water cycle.

So I guess one relationship between the 3 might be symbolic
interaction->systems thinking->adaptive management.

It is a little hard to wrap my mind around it.

Cheers from Buffalo, New York,

Aaron

On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Ika Darnhofer <darnhofi@lincoln.ac.nz>
wrote:

> Hi Aaron,
>
> I am not sure I can be of much help, and I know nothing about symbolic
> interactionism. But I also work on decision making (in the
> agricultural/farming sector) and am currently trying to work out how
> adaptive
> management could help us understand farm-level decisions.
>
> I am not sure you mean adaptive thinking or adaptive management. There is
> quite some literature out there on adaptive management, mostly of large-
> scale ecosystems (i.e. focused on the problem of managing common
> goods). I so far have found little on adaptive management at the individual
> level (i.e. at the farm / private sector level).
>
> Systems thinking... hm that would require you clarify what you mean by
> "systems": there are many different approaches and understanding of
> "systems". Historically there was the "general systems theory", then the
> "systems dynamics", now it seems it is mostly about "complex adaptive
> systems" (CAS) or complexity science. In the social science there is
> Luhmann with his understanding of systems.
>
> I personally think that there is much in common on adaptive management
> and systems thinking, as I think a farmer needs to grasp the basics of
> (complex) systems (dynamics / patterns / changes) to be able to apply
> adaptive management principles as his/her farm travels along the adaptive
> cycle. I am currently working on a manuscript on the issue, and haven't
> found many other papers that address it, especially as applied on farming
> (and I am not sure if that is helpful for you, as I do not know the context
> in
> which you want to apply it!?).
>
> Let's see what the other participants in the mailing list will contribute!
> Greetings from New Zealand,
> Ika
>
> On 22 May 2008 at 15:02, aaron gilbee wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi gang, I wanted to throw this question out there and see if anyone
> > might have some ideas. I am a graduate student in a program focused on
> > decision making. I was wondering how does adaptive thinking differ
> > from systems thinking and symbolic interactionist thinking. My view is
> > one where systems thinking focuses on thought that are related to how
> > the environment interacts with humans, mean while symbolic
> > interactionism addresses how humans interact with the environment This
> > admittedly is too simplistic, but I thought it might be valuable to
> > through out there to people more engaged with the topics than I am
> > currently. Thanks, Aaron
> >
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Ika Darnhofer
>
> Currently on sabbatical at:
> Agribusiness & Economics Research Unit
> Lincoln University
> P.O.Box 84
> Lincoln 7647, New Zealand
>
> Home institution:
> Dept. of Economic and Social Sciences
> BOKU - Univ. of Nat. Resources and Applied Life Sciences, Vienna
> Feistmantelstr. 4
> 1180 Vienna, Austria
> http://www.wiso.boku.ac.at/darnhofer.html
> ika.darnhofer@boku.ac.at
>
>

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Louisa Evans: Re: Looking for references on adaptive cycles theory Jun 04, 2008 09:16:27
Greg,

Briefly....are you aware of the Ecology and Society journal that is edited
by members of the RA. This has a wealth of information and is free access.

http://www.ecologyandsociety.org/

I have also attached a review by Folke 2006 and an earlier synopsis of the
panarchy book by Holling 2001.


Louisa


> Hi everyone,
>
> I am a PhD student in Australia. I am interested in complex systems
> and I am working on a number of biological computer-models.
> I came across the RA just recently and have read a few papers with
> great interest, however, I am left with a few open questions.
> I hope that someone on the list can point me to the right direction:
>
> The bibliography of the RA website is great, it contains a wealth of
> examples of regime shifts and a few papers that explain the main
> concepts.
> What I am looking for at the moment are somewhat more theoretical
> papers that, partially or in whole, tackle questions like these:
>
> - why do adaptive cycles come to be?
> - what are the general mechanisms behind them?
> - how can they be defined in an abstract/generic form rather than
> through specific examples?
> - how do the topics of the RA fit into the general context of complex
> adaptive systems?
> - any other "theoretical" or "overview" papers?
>
> I hope these questions do not appear too weird to the community. As I
> said, I am new to the topic.
> I would be very grateful if someone could point me to papers that
> address the above points.
> Please, if possible, suggest papers rather than books.))
>
> Great thanks!
>
> Greg))
>

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unknown: Re: Looking for references on adaptive cycles theory Jun 04, 2008 09:15:24
Hi Greg,
Not sure if this will help you, but the following paper presents some
theoretical/mathematical bases for some key concepts of the RA.
http://www.ecologyandsociety.org/vol1/iss1/art7/
Cheers
Etienne

2008/6/3 Greg Paperin <paperin@gmail.com>:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I am a PhD student in Australia. I am interested in complex systems
> and I am working on a number of biological computer-models.
> I came across the RA just recently and have read a few papers with
> great interest, however, I am left with a few open questions.
> I hope that someone on the list can point me to the right direction:
>
> The bibliography of the RA website is great, it contains a wealth of
> examples of regime shifts and a few papers that explain the main
> concepts.
> What I am looking for at the moment are somewhat more theoretical
> papers that, partially or in whole, tackle questions like these:
>
> - why do adaptive cycles come to be?
> - what are the general mechanisms behind them?
> - how can they be defined in an abstract/generic form rather than
> through specific examples?
> - how do the topics of the RA fit into the general context of complex
> adaptive systems?
> - any other "theoretical" or "overview" papers?
>
> I hope these questions do not appear too weird to the community. As I
> said, I am new to the topic.
> I would be very grateful if someone could point me to papers that
> address the above points.
> Please, if possible, suggest papers rather than books.))
>
> Great thanks!
>
> Greg))
>



--
Etienne Laliberté
================================
Rural Ecology Research Group
School of Forestry
University of Canterbury
Private Bag 4800
Christchurch 8140, New Zealand
Phone: +64 3 366 7001 ext. 8365
Fax: +64 3 364 2124
www.elaliberte.info

--
unknown: Re: Looking for references on adaptive cycles theory Jun 04, 2008 09:14:53
Hi Greg,

It's taking me a while to get my head around this stuff as well. The first
few chapters of the Panarchy book are helpful, and here are some papers that
also helped me:

http://www.ecologyandsociety.org/vol9/iss2/art5
Folke, Global Environmental Change 16 (2006) 253–267
Holling & Meffe, Conservation Biology, Pages 328-337, Volume 10, No. 2,
April 1996
Holling, Ecosystems (2001) 4: 390–405

Obviously there are lots more, but those are the ones that leap to mind.

Good luck,

Keith


----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Paperin" <paperin@gmail.com>
To: "Resilience Dialog" <kwgibson@ucalgary.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 3:50 AM
Subject: Looking for references on adaptive cycles theory


> Hi everyone,
>
> I am a PhD student in Australia. I am interested in complex systems
> and I am working on a number of biological computer-models.
> I came across the RA just recently and have read a few papers with
> great interest, however, I am left with a few open questions.
> I hope that someone on the list can point me to the right direction:
>
> The bibliography of the RA website is great, it contains a wealth of
> examples of regime shifts and a few papers that explain the main
> concepts.
> What I am looking for at the moment are somewhat more theoretical
> papers that, partially or in whole, tackle questions like these:
>
> - why do adaptive cycles come to be?
> - what are the general mechanisms behind them?
> - how can they be defined in an abstract/generic form rather than
> through specific examples?
> - how do the topics of the RA fit into the general context of complex
> adaptive systems?
> - any other "theoretical" or "overview" papers?
>
> I hope these questions do not appear too weird to the community. As I
> said, I am new to the topic.
> I would be very grateful if someone could point me to papers that
> address the above points.
> Please, if possible, suggest papers rather than books.))
>
> Great thanks!
>
> Greg))
>
>
>
unknown: Re: Looking for references on adaptive cycles theory Jun 03, 2008 13:06:10
Greg,

Might lead you somewhere... http://www.resalliance.org/3871.php

http://resilience2008.org/resilience/programme/

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:50 AM, Greg Paperin <paperin@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am a PhD student in Australia. I am interested in complex systems
> and I am working on a number of biological computer-models.
> I came across the RA just recently and have read a few papers with
> great interest, however, I am left with a few open questions.
> I hope that someone on the list can point me to the right direction:
>
> The bibliography of the RA website is great, it contains a wealth of
> examples of regime shifts and a few papers that explain the main
> concepts.
> What I am looking for at the moment are somewhat more theoretical
> papers that, partially or in whole, tackle questions like these:
>
> - why do adaptive cycles come to be?
> - what are the general mechanisms behind them?
> - how can they be defined in an abstract/generic form rather than
> through specific examples?
> - how do the topics of the RA fit into the general context of complex
> adaptive systems?
> - any other "theoretical" or "overview" papers?
>
> I hope these questions do not appear too weird to the community. As I
> said, I am new to the topic.
> I would be very grateful if someone could point me to papers that
> address the above points.
> Please, if possible, suggest papers rather than books.))
>
> Great thanks!
>
> Greg))
>
unknown: Looking for references on adaptive cycles theory Jun 03, 2008 10:45:59
Hi everyone,

I am a PhD student in Australia. I am interested in complex systems
and I am working on a number of biological computer-models.
I came across the RA just recently and have read a few papers with
great interest, however, I am left with a few open questions.
I hope that someone on the list can point me to the right direction:

The bibliography of the RA website is great, it contains a wealth of
examples of regime shifts and a few papers that explain the main
concepts.
What I am looking for at the moment are somewhat more theoretical
papers that, partially or in whole, tackle questions like these:

- why do adaptive cycles come to be?
- what are the general mechanisms behind them?
- how can they be defined in an abstract/generic form rather than
through specific examples?
- how do the topics of the RA fit into the general context of complex
adaptive systems?
- any other "theoretical" or "overview" papers?

I hope these questions do not appear too weird to the community. As I
said, I am new to the topic.
I would be very grateful if someone could point me to papers that
address the above points.
Please, if possible, suggest papers rather than books.))

Great thanks!

Greg))
unknown: Re: request to subscribe May 23, 2008 09:13:39
Hi gang,
I wanted to throw this question out there and see if anyone might have some
ideas.

I am a graduate student in a program focused on decision making. I was
wondering how does adaptive thinking differ from systems thinking and
symbolic interactionist thinking.

My view is one where systems thinking focuses on thought that are related to
how the environment interacts with humans, mean while symbolic
interactionism addresses how humans interact with the environment. This
admittedly is too simplistic, but I thought it might be valuable to through
out there to people more engaged with the topics than I am currently.

Thanks,

Aaron

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Allyson E Quinlan <aquinlan@resalliance.org>
wrote:

> Hi Valerie,
>
>
>
> You are on the list – unfortunately it has just been a quiet lately which
> is a bit surprising because there are now 388 people on the list! Sometimes
> these things work in waves and there is a flurry of email around a
> particular topic and then it dies down. You can also use the researcher
> database on the RA site (http://www.resalliance.org/2986.php) to contact
> individual researchers who are working on themes of interest to you.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Allyson Quinlan
>
>
>

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Allyson Quinlan: RE: request to subscribe May 22, 2008 09:41:52
Hi Valerie,



You are on the list - unfortunately it has just been a quiet lately which is
a bit surprising because there are now 388 people on the list! Sometimes
these things work in waves and there is a flurry of email around a
particular topic and then it dies down. You can also use the researcher
database on the RA site (http://www.resalliance.org/2986.php) to contact
individual researchers who are working on themes of interest to you.



Cheers,

Allyson Quinlan




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